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California Lemon Law Blog...
| | | Small Claims Court & California Lemon Law - Tuesday, February 21 2012 | |
Understanding why Small Claims Court
Is Not for Auto Lemon Law Claims.
The recent media frenzy centering around an attorney who brought a Small Claims Court action over fuel economy claims on her hybrid vehicle has sparked an interest in consumers thinking that they can do the same thing for themselves – a ‘easy win’ in Small Claims Court. You think you can take a car case to Small Claims Court in California, win and collect your money? Think again. Here’s why…
Small Claim Court is no less than an incredible amount of time and work. You have to have the automobile manufacturer served in the city they do business (which may be nowhere remotely close to where you live). You have to pay to have them served. You have to prepare your “case”. In Small Claims Court, you have to prove your damages. How? You just can’t walk in and say to the judge “Hi your honor, my car is a lemon, so please pay me the limit of $10,000.00”. You have to prove monetary damages. But we are getting ahead of ourselves. First you need to get into court to get your case heard. Imagine if you will a room full of people wanting ‘their day in court’. When will your name/case be called? You wait hours and hours for your case to be heard. You are sitting and listening to all these peoples ‘tales of woe’. It’s not a pretty thing. No glamour here. How it’s spelled is S-T-R-E-S-S. An unbelievable amount of stress. Think you are going to be able to tell the judge (or commissioner) your whole sordid story about how bad your car is? Think again. He (or she) has to move these cases though- fast. You are going to be asked to present your damages, how they were calculated, why you sought Small Claims Court for relief, and the amount you seek in compensation as the award. Yours is not the media-frenzied story of an attorney who knew the ropes of preparing and presenting a case. It’s you, a person who needs less stress and frustration in your life – right?
OK, so let’s assume a lightning bolt strikes and you ‘win’. Win WHAT? Do you really think the automobile manufacturers are going to pay out on a Small Claims Court judgement and open the possibility of a floodgate of these types of cases? - of course not. They will do what is happening in the hybrid car case that has received all the media attention – they will appeal the decision. Why wouldn’t they? They have an army of staff attorneys that are allowed into the appeal, as appeals are done in Superior Court. They can bring in all the experts, engineers, attorneys they want! So, what happened to your ‘win’? A short lived rush of excitement, followed by reality. But wait, that’s assuming you win. Let’s talk about if you lose, which is highly probable. Think you can pursue a lemon law claim against the automobile manufacturer after you have lost your Small Claims Court case? Think again and take note: IT’S OVER. You have exhausted your legal resources, and it ends right there. You have given up all your legal rights to pursue a California lemon law case/claim.
Our California legislators passed our California Lemon Law, which is more commonly known as the “Song-Beverly Consumer Act”. It is quite simply the best lemon law in the nation. The California Lemon Law doesn’t get you a minimal Small Claims Court money award, it gets the car bought back, and ALL your money refunded! You don’t have to worry about the basis and calculating your “damages’, as the lemon law has a legal formula under the statute for calculating your actual damages! Our California Lemon Law assumes you cannot afford an attorney, so when you hire a lemon law attorney to represent you, the manufacturer is responsible to pay your attorneys fees when your case settles. Even if it doesn’t, the attorneys take the case on “contingency fee” basis, which means you owe them nothing if you don’t win. A lemon law case brought by a lemon law attorney has the power of a Civil Lawsuit filed in Superior Court – the Superior Court where YOU live – not where the automobile manufacturer is bases. Better still, the consumer does practically nothing, nor puts out their time or money! When you win a California Lemon Law case, the manufacturer rarely will appeal, as the cost of it is simply too prohibitive, and they have to post a huge monetary bond paying 10% interest to you. Most consumers don’t know that under our California Lemon Law, the attorney can also seek an additional civil penalty of up to two times the cost of the car! So, if you had, for example, a $30,000 car, the civil penalty could max-out at an additional $60,000 to you!
When you take a few minutes to examine this whole “Small Claims Court” idea, the bright shine quickly fades to a dull finish. I sat in on the Honda Hybrid Small Claims Court action. This is NOT your typical Small Claims Court case – far from it. It certainly would not be yours. Small Claims court is an important tool for just what it was designed for – small claims.
If you are a consumer that got a ‘lemon’, then follow the course of what our legislators set forth all the way back in 1984 – use our California Lemon Law. It was passed to protect you – the consumer – against the giant auto companies by ‘leveling the playing field’ and giving you the upper hand. If you think about it, why would you want it any other way?
Randy Sottile is a Lemon Law Auto Expert that has been involved in over 11,000 lemon law cases for the largest lemon law attorney firm in California. A consumer should always consult with an attorney prior to “opting-out” of a class action matter.
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| | | "Dealer Recommended" vs. "Factory" Service - Monday, January 23 2012 | |
Watch out for this dealer scam in the Service Department. There are two kinds of service for your vehicle "factory required", and "dealer recommended" What is the difference, and what to look out for...
Automobile manufacturer's set up a service (maintenance) schedule that is outlined in your owners manual, or a separate booklet. It gives the mileage intervals, and what is done at each interval. This is REQUIRED maintenance to keep your new vehicle warranty in effect. You can choose to have your dealer do this, or have an nationally-known indepedent service facility do it. If you have an independent do it, have them write down, as and example "perform 30K mile service". Don't stop there! Have them write down "peform all checks/inspections/fluid changes as per factory maintenance schedule" right there on their Repair Order. This is critically important.
Now, your authorized dealer may try to play a trick on you. They call it "(dealer name) motors recommended service schedule". FORGET IT. This is NOT the factory schedule, and is NOT required! This is their "profit playground" to sell you things that are neither required, nor needed. A blatant example of this is "fuel induction flush" for $149-$200. NOT REQUIRED. Or they sell you other services ahead of the manufacturer's. These are typically in writing, but can also be "sold" by the Service Advisor. I like this one "we recommend rotating the tires every 5,000 miles". Tell them "great, as long as it's FREE". You get the idea.
So, take out that owners manual or maintenance book that came with your vehicle, get familiar with it, and know you ONLY do what is in the book. No more- no less. This will save you money and, if you end up with a "lemon" vehicle, and wish to do a California lemon law claim, you will have supporting documentation of servicing performed at the correct intervals.
If/when you find yourself near/at the end of the factory warranty, be sure to visit your authorized dealer and have them check for applicable "campaigns" and "TSB's" (Technical Service Bulletins) that can be performed free on your vehicle before it goes out of warranty. Some campaigns and TSB's actually go past the warranty expiration date. Also, ask your Service Advisor for any specific warranty extensions for systems/components on your vehicle.
Remember, even when you reach the end of your factory warranty, there are still many, many parts that the dealer must replace for free if found defective under your emissions performance warranties. These warranties go far past the factory warranty, so familiarize yourself with them. They can be found in your warranty booklet.
Questions about the California lemon law? Call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073, or our main office at 1-800-225-3666. We have offices statewide to serve you.
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| | | Honda Odyssey Power Steering warranty ext. - Monday, January 9 2012 | |
Do you own a 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey van? American Honda has extended the warranty on the Power Steering pump to 7 years or 100,000 miles.
Owners have been complaining of the wheel being hard to turn, lack of power assist, etc. on Odyssey mini-vans. Honda initially only limited the warranty extension to a couple of model years, and has now expanded it to 5 model-years.
If you have had repeated repair visits for your Honda's power steering system, and would like to know if you qualify for California lemon law protection, please call our offices at 1-800-225-3666.
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| | | Honda Accord Power Steering Pump Warranty - Monday, January 9 2012 | |
If you own a late model Honda Accord, you may be receiving a warranty extension for your power steering pump to 7 years or 100,000 miles.
We have already seen a 2009 Honda Accord owner receive such a warranty from American Honda Motor Company.
This comes on the heels of recent announcement by American Honda to extend the warranty on power steering pumps on thier Oddyssey minivans. 2005-2010 models.
We will keep you posted on developements on this breaking story. If you have any warranty repair questions about your new or used vehicle under factory warranty, call me - Randy Sottile, the Lemon Law Auto Expert at 1-858-342-0073. California residents only. California's largest lemon law firm is here to help YOU!
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| | | New Ford Fiesta Auto Transmission Problems - Monday, November 28 2011 | |
The new model Ford Fiesta's may have some serious transmission issues coming down the pipeline. There have been TSB's for this transmission, OASIS topics, and more.
We have seen a rash of potential lemon law cases by owners driving the new Ford Fiesta, and having numerous and various complaints about the operation/shifting of the automatic transmission.
If you own or lease a new Ford Fiesta, and are experiencing repeated episodes of transmission issues, please call us at 1-800-225-3666. If you would like to speak with our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, about your Fiesta's transmission, or any other mechanical or safety issues with your Fiesta, please call him direct at 1-858-342-0073.
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| | | California Lemon Law Case - Consumer Guide - Sunday, November 6 2011 | |
Do you want to know if your vehicle qualifies under the California Lemon Law? Here is the information you need - in easy-to-understand format...
The California lemon law looks for vehicles that have repeat episodes of warranty repair visits for the same defect/issue, have spent a cumulative of too many days in the shop for repairs, or have spent 30 days continuous out-of-service at the dealership awaiting repair parts.
The key to the California Lemon Law is substantial impairment of the subject vehicle. It can be impaired by safety or use (and to a rare degree- "value"). 99% of California lemon law cases are for "substantial impairment to safety or use". Multiple repair attempts for the same issue make up the bulk of California Lemon Law cases. How many repairs is "enough? That is a good question - and a complex one. Some of the factors involved are:
How many miles on the vehicle, nature of defect/complaint, degree of substantiality of defect, is defect likely to result in serious injury or death, how close the repairs are to each other, if the consumer is driving average, or "excessive" miles, if a leased car is being "overdriven" on it's alloted miles, the consistency of the customers wording of the complaint on the Repair Orders, if there are TSB's or Recalls that affect the vehicle, if repairs were done in California, and more.
So, as you can see, a lemon law case is no simple matter. Your attorney is best equipped to "do battle" with the automobile manufacturer. In most cases, your lemon law case is done at no charge to you for legal fees, and our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, can answer your questions about your cars problems, then he will to Technical Research, and get the facts about what the manufacturer knows about the defect/complaint. Randy Sottile has access to all TSB's, as well as manufacturer's technical website portals, and more. Randy Sottile, working with the attorneys at the firm, can provide you with the best in lemon law legal services. Call us today at 1-800-225-3666, or call Randy Sottile direct at 1-858-342-0073 to go over warranty problems with your vehicle. We will discuss any 2005 or newer vehicle under the manufacturer's factory warranty, or CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) warranty. Any "warranty" that you purchased is not applicable to California lemon law.
Contact us! We are here to help you understand your legal rights, entitlement, and understanding of your vehicles mechanical/safety problems.
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| | | Car Dealerships Interfering with Lemon Law - Saturday, November 5 2011 | |
Watch out for the Service Departements at car dealerships when you bring your vehicle in for warranty work. If you mention "lemon law" or "my car is a lemon", they are there to protect the factory - not you.
It is always best to be a "good customer", and not complain to the dealer other than what your vehicle symptoms are onto a Repair Order. Keep the dealer your "friend". That way, if you *do* end up having a lemon law claim, they can in many ways be your "silent ally", instead of enemy.
Have questions about warranty repairs and troubles you are having with your vehicle? Call me, Randy Sottile, The Lemon Law Auto Expert at 1-858-342-0073. I am here to help you with your 2005-2012 vehicle that is under factory warranty.
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| | | California Lemon Law - Transmission Issues - Wednesday, October 26 2011 | |
How do you know when you have a automatic transmission that is beginning to fail? Look/listen/"feel" for these symptoms:
When lever is placed into "D" (drive), the transmission does not engage into gear for a second or two.
When you accellerate, there is a loss of power and/or the engine "races" and the tachometer needle jumps up too high.
Shifting becomes harsh on upshifts, or when slowing down to down-shifts.
You feel a "bump" a few seconds after coming to a stop.
You hear a "whining" sound. This is a failing torque conveter, which is on the side of the transmission.
You have the "CHECK ENGINE" light come on the dash, and the transmission isn't shifting properly.
The transmission "slips", and you experience a loss of power.
You smell a "burnt smell" after you get out of the car.
There is a collection of oil spots (or pooling) under the car. The oily substance may be clear, light pink, or dark brown, but is not motor oil.
Car dealers often will do NOTHING to properly diagnose a transmission problem, rather - they simply use a "scan tool" to see if "trouble codes" are present. If they are not, then they just give the vehicle back to you. Don't stop there! Keep bringing the vehicle back in every week or so, getting a new Repair Order every time you go in, with the same worded complaint on the Repair Order. If the problem is intermittent (doesn't do it all the time), then put the word "intermittently" in front of your worded complaint. An example would be "customer states that intermittently transmission will shift hard, and also slips"
California lemon law is here to protect consumers. Knowing dealers limitations, the more "repair attempts" (warranty repair visits) you get for the same problem, the stronger your California lemon law case will be.
Have transmission questions on your 2005-2012 vehicle that is under warranty? Call the Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073. You don't have to put up with a bad vehicle. Lemon Law gets you out of the bad vehicle, so you can get a better one.
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| | | California Lemon Law -Battery warranties - Wednesday, October 19 2011 | |
Often during the course of vehicle warranty repairs, a battery is replaced, and the dealer charges the customer for the battery. When the case comes to the lemon law attorney as a California lemon law claim, we often discover during the course of the litigation that the customer was charged for the battery, when in fact it was covered under the manufacturer's new vehicle limited warranty!
On point: 2010-2011 model-year Hyundai's have a 2 year/unlimited mileage battery warranty that includes changeout labor.
Don't *assume* that what your being charged for is not warranty. Look in your warranty book, and check for yourself. If you aren't sure, call the manufacturer's Customer Assistance Center and ask them, or make an on-line enquiry at the manufacturer's website.
Did you end up with a "lemon" vehicle with a horrible warranty repair history? Call me, Randy Sottile, the Lemon Law Auto Expert at 1-858-342-0073, and let's discuss your vehicle and the problems you have been having. www.lemonlawautoexpert.com I am here to help you - at no charge!
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| | | Why You Need the Lemon Law Auto Expert - Wednesday, October 12 2011 | |
What sets our California Lemon Law firm apart from all the others is me - Randy Sottile, the Lemon Law Auto Expert. Here's why....
When you have mechanical problems with your car, Your First Step --Talk to an expert; Find out what is wrong with your car. Simple, we do that with our bodies, we go to a doctor. You dont go to an attorney first before going to the doctor, you just go to the doctor. In this case an auto expert is like a doctor, he is someone who understands what's wrong with your vehicle, what it takes to fix it, and even if it can be fixed. Not an attorney - they know the law, and they are step 2 or three. So in this case that Car Doctor is me, Randy Sottile Lemon Law Auto Expert. Once we talk and identify the symptoms of the problem with your vehicle, I will look at what was “test” (Diagnostic Testing in the Medical World) were performed on the vehicle in its previous visits to the car dealerships Service Department.Step 2: I research the manufacturer’s internal technical website, internal memo’s on the issue/complaint and find out what the manufacturer knows about it. Trust me, the majority of the time? - they know. Will the manufacturer or dealer tell you they know about the problem? - of course not! Some "known" issues are fixed by dealers, because other people complained before you. Depending on the severity of the issue, it can be a “Service Action” or “Service Campaign”, or if the government steps in for a safety issue, they issue a mailing and call that a “Recall Notice” When the person complains the “party line” is gee 'this is the first I've heard of this complaint'. Please. They know.
Most attorney firms generally will not hire an outside expert to review their cases -it's EXPENSIVE. In some cases the Attorney is just like the car manufacturer.
When you work with our ME - I am different. I am the “Expert", because of my years working in the auto industry, I know where to review, research and make determinations about what's wrong or going on with your vehicle. Then just like a doctor I give you the diagnosis of what’s wrong with your car, and report it to you. Then WE decide what the next step is to take in your individual case. If going to the attorney is the next best step, you take it, as it’s researched and justified, I send the information off to the attorney I trust for your brand of vehicle and that has the same philosophy as me. In short, an attorney is only as effective as the information he/she is armed with. I hand the attorney what he/she needs to properly pursue the case- knowledge, documents, explanation and understanding, and in most cases what the manufacturer knows but is not telling the consumer, the SAME INFORMATION I GAVE TO YOU! I work with a group of attorneys that have excellent relationships with the automobile manufacturer’s, and work well with me.
Most law firms will either ask you to pay for the expert, or won't hire and expert, until a lawsuit is filed. This is the "cart before the horse". To do a case properly, it must be mechanically evaluated first, then legally evaluated second. Once both have been completed, only then can you make the proper decision based on all the facts of what is best for you and of course of your car....
If YOU have a 2005-2012 new or used vehicle that is under the manufacturer's warranty, that has less that 100,000 miles, and would like to talk about the problems you have had with your car - CALL ME, I’m the Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile. Just call me at 1-858-342-0073 or email me: experts4u@aol.com
Have your repair documents handy when you call, so we can properly diagnose the issue(s) with your car, and see what steps we can take to get you a “better car”. You don't have to put up with a bad car! Get into a better one! Talk to Randy Sottile, I'm here to help you, and I understand, better than anyone, what you are going through with your car it could be a "lemon".
My website is: www.LemonLawAutoExpert.com
The Law Firms website is: www.CaliforniaLemonLawAttorneys.com
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| | | California Lemon Law in the News - Tuesday, October 4 2011 | |
The way Repair Orders are viewed by the lemon law statute when facilitated by authorized car dealerships for warranty repairs has changed - a victory for consumers!
For years automobile manufacturers have been arguing "it's not a 'repair attempt' under the lemon law statute unless a repair is made". The recent appellate decision changed that. It now (in easy-to-understand non-legal language) says that a 'repair attempt' is defined by a customer dropping the vehicle off, having a Repair Order with the customers complaint lodged, and giving the dealer time to diagnose/and or attempt a repair. It doesn't matter if they actually DO or DO NOT repair the car on the visit(s).
So, consumers that have had 3+ repair visits for the same issue under warranty - whether they have done a repair every time or not - are urged to call California's largest statewide lemon law attorney firm for a free case evaluation and review. The Law Offices of William R. McGee. 1-800-225-3666. If you have questions about your repair visits, and would like to speak with our lemon law auto expert, please call Randy Sottile at 1-858-342-0073 about your cars repeated warranty repairs.
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| | | California Lemon Law - After the Buyback - Wednesday, September 28 2011 | |
So, the buyback of the 'lemon' car is underway (or completed), and you are now shopping for a new car. How NOT to get ripped-off by the car dealer.
Buying a new car is easy- VERY easy - if you follow this process. First, all new cars have only 4-7% mark-up from "invoice". There is no magic, no games - the auto manufacturers have pulled out most of the profit margin in their new vehicles, and given it back to themselves as corporate profit. So, as an example, if you look at a $20,000 sticker-price car, and it has a 5% 'margin' of profit, that is $1,000 DIFFERENCE between sticker-price and invoice (invoice is what they pay for it).
You do NOT need to "haggle" for hours and hours. You do not need to visit 14 dealerships over the same vehicle. Here is what you do. Find the vehicle you want, the way you want it equipped. Have the salesman take a photocopy of the "window sticker" (MSRP label) from the manufacturer that is taped to the side of the vehicle side window glass. Take that to your bank. Tell them how much you are going to give the dealer as a down-payment. Then the bank will calculate your monthly payment (and interest rate) based upon your credit score and other financial factors. 48 months, 60 months, 72 months - you choose the duration of the loan - they will give you the monthly payment and interest rate. If the payment is too high - you are looking at "too much" car. Tell your banker to re-calculate the purchase price of the vehicle in $3,000 reductions in sticker price. Once he drops to the price that makes the monthly payment you can afford - THAT'S IT - THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. So, as an example, if you were looking at a $50,000 Mercedes E Class, but your monthly payment you can afford is a $35,000 "C" Class, you are not a "E" Class buyer. You are a "C" class buyer (less expensive car).
You may think "I can lease it for less". Well, not really. If you have a $50,000 car that, say, leases for $499.00/month, and you start the lease with $3,600 "drive off" fee, then you must divide that $3,600 into 36 lease payments. NOW your lease is ACTUALLY $599/mo. See? Also, at the end of the lease, you have nothing to show, no equity, and own nothing. YOU HAVE NO CAR at the end of the lease. What if you personal financial situation changes? Buy purchasing (rather than leasing) at the end of the finance term you OWN the vehicle.
All this "the dealer had me handcuffed to the chair negotiating" is a worthless waste of time. You simply deduct 5% from the 'sticker price', and offer him that (less any factory rebates or incentives). So, on the $20,000 car, you offer 5% less - you offer $19,000 + tax and license, LESS any factory rebates or incentives.
You are probably thinking, "they are asking me what I want my payment to be" You are right! - they are trying to sell you THEIR financing, so they can make MORE money off of you. Remember your bank visit?? USE IT. Dealers can make what is called a "ONE-PAY" contract. This is where you take delivery, take the purchase contract to your bank, your bank funds the loan, and you take the ONE PAYMENT (the check from your bank) BACK to the dealer to pay off the car. Now, some dealers, in order to take delivery, will make you fill out a CREDIT APPLICATION. DON'T! It affects your credit score (as an enquiry) AND gives them your social security number and drivers license number - key to IDENTITY THEFT. Simply have them make up a complete "purchase agreement", do NOT sign it (it will have the vehicle stock number on it), give them a $300 or $500 "goodfaith deposit", and take their purchase agreement to your bank for funding. You bring the check back from your bank, and THEN you complete the transaction. All the dealer wants you do to do is sign the purchase agreement - then you are the owner. So DON'T until you bring the check back.
So, you ask, "what if they don't accept my offer of $19,000?" There is another dealer every (approximately) 5 to 10 miles. There is always someone who will "grab" for a deal to sell a vehicle. These are not priceless diamonds, and if one is gone - trust me - there is another right behind it.
So, you ask "the dealers monthly payment was lower than my banks". Ah-ha! That is based on "on approved credit". If their loan monthly payment is less, let them print-out a "deal re-cap" sheet that has all the financing/transactional information, and then bring it to you banker. Let he/she compare, and tell you if it's better - or there are hidden charges. IF, and I say IF the dealers payment is LESS, and it's all legitimate, then BEFORE you sign the purchase agreement, you tell the dealer you want a "letter of acceptance and loan terms approval for the loan" from their lender. That way you KNOW the loan is approved. Then, and only then do you sign the purchase agreement.
If our office has recently completed your lemon law case, and you are "in the market" for another vehicle - new or used - please call the firms Auto Expert - Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073 for informational assistance.
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| | | California Lemon Law - After the Buyback - Wednesday, September 28 2011 | |
So, the buyback of the 'lemon' car is underway (or completed), and you are now shopping for a new car. How NOT to get ripped-off by the car dealer.
Buying a new car is easy- VERY easy - if you follow this process. First, all new cars have only 4-7% mark-up from "invoice". There is no magic, no games - the auto manufacturers have pulled out most of the profit margin in their new vehicles, and given it back to themselves as corporate profit. So, as an example, if you look at a $20,000 sticker-price car, and it has a 5% 'margin' of profit, that is $1,000 DIFFERENCE between sticker-price and invoice (invoice is what they pay for it).
You do NOT need to "haggle" for hours and hours. You do not need to visit 14 dealerships over the same vehicle. Here is what you do. Find the vehicle you want, the way you want it equipped. Have the salesman take a photocopy of the "window sticker" (MSRP label) from the manufacturer that is taped to the side of the vehicle side window glass. Take that to your bank. Tell them how much you are going to give the dealer as a down-payment. Then the bank will calculate your monthly payment (and interest rate) based upon your credit score and other financial factors. 48 months, 60 months, 72 months - you choose the duration of the loan - they will give you the monthly payment and interest rate. If the payment is too high - you are looking at "too much" car. Tell your banker to re-calculate the purchase price of the vehicle in $3,000 reductions in sticker price. Once he drops to the price that makes the monthly payment you can afford - THAT'S IT - THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. So, as an example, if you were looking at a $50,000 Mercedes E Class, but your monthly payment you can afford is a $35,000 "C" Class, you are not a "E" Class buyer. You are a "C" class buyer (less expensive car). Face the reality that you are looking for a $35,000 vehicle - regardless of what brand that may end up being.
You may think "I can lease it for less". Well, not really. If you have a $50,000 car that, say, leases for $499.00/month, and you start the lease with $3,600 "drive off" fee, then you must divide that $3,600 into 36 lease payments. NOW your lease is ACTUALLY $599/mo. See? Also, at the end of the lease, you have nothing to show, no equity, and own nothing. YOU HAVE NO CAR at the end of the lease. What if you personal financial situation changes? Buy purchasing (rather than leasing) at the end of the finance term you OWN the vehicle.
All this "the dealer had me handcuffed to the chair negotiating" is a worthless waste of time. You simply deduct 5% from the 'sticker price', and offer him that (less any factory rebates or incentives). So, on the $20,000 car, you offer 5% less - you offer $19,000 + tax and license, LESS any factory rebates or incentives.
You are probably thinking, "they are asking me what I want my payment to be" You are right! - they are trying to sell you THEIR financing, so they can make MORE money off of you. Remember your bank visit?? USE IT. Dealers can make what is called a "ONE-PAY" contract. This is where you take delivery, take the purchase contract to your bank, your bank funds the loan, and you take the ONE PAYMENT (the check from your bank) BACK to the dealer to pay off the car. Now, some dealers, in order to take delivery, will make you fill out a CREDIT APPLICATION. DON'T! It affects your credit score (as an enquiry) AND gives them your social security number and drivers license number - key to IDENTITY THEFT. Simply have them make up a complete "purchase agreement", do NOT sign it (it will have the vehicle stock number on it), give them a $300 or $500 "goodfaith deposit", and take their purchase agreement to your bank for funding. You bring the check back from your bank, and THEN you complete the transaction. All the dealer wants you do to do is sign the purchase agreement - then you are the owner. So DON'T until you bring the check back.
So, you ask, "what if they don't accept my offer of $19,000?" There is another dealer every (approximately) 5 to 10 miles. There is always someone who will "grab" for a deal to sell a vehicle. These are not priceless diamonds, and if one is gone - trust me - there is another right behind it.
So, you ask "the dealers monthly payment was lower than my banks". Ah-ha! That is based on "on approved credit". If their loan monthly payment is less, let them print-out a "deal re-cap" sheet that has all the financing/transactional information, and then bring it to you banker. Let he/she compare, and tell you if it's better - or there are hidden charges. IF, and I say IF the dealers payment is LESS, and it's all legitimate, then BEFORE you sign the purchase agreement, you tell the dealer you want a "letter of acceptance and loan terms approval for the loan" from their lender. That way you KNOW the loan is approved. Then, and only then do you sign the purchase agreement.
If our office has recently completed your lemon law case, and you are "in the market" for another vehicle - new or used - please call the firms Auto Expert - Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073 for informational assistance.
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| | | California Lemon Law - Watch That Car Dealer! - Thursday, September 22 2011 | |
Our California Lemon Law is written in clear language. It reimburses the consumer for the vehicle *as equipped from the factory". What does this mean in relation to California Lemon Law? It means that anything the dealer sells you that is NOT a "genuine factory" accessory from their Parts Department is NOT reimbursable under our California lemon law when a lemon law claim is made.
Vehicle theft recovery systemes, "kill-switches". DVD player systems, window tinting, glass VIN # etching products, truck lift kits, non-factory wheels and tires, paint/fabric/leather/vinyl "protection" products - the list goes on and on of NON-factory, after-market accessories and products. NONE of these dealer-installed, non-factory parts are eligible for reimbursement on a lemon law buyback. In fact, the price of these is *deducted* from your refund.
If you have any questions about your in-warranty 2005-2012 vehicle as it relates to non-factory accessories, call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073. He will answer your questions regarding aftermarket accessories and a lemon law claim, and he can help you identify FACTORY vs. NON-factory accessories on your vehicle.
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| | | Vehicle Tampering and California Lemon Law - Saturday, September 17 2011 | |
BEWARE! What consumer's don't know is what the car manufacturer's DO know about owners tampering with their vehicle's to "create" a California Lemon Law case.
In the last few years the automobile industry has seen a surge in the number of people claiming their vehicle a "lemon", only to find that the owner had tampered with the vehicle. What is "tampering", and how have the automobile manufacturer's caught on to it, and are now turning the tables back on consumers?
Typical "tampering" of cars include repeated incidents of dash warning lights for various vehicle systems, including, but not limited to: SRS/airbag, "CHECK ENGINE", traction control, brakes, ABS, and more. Conversely, there are "tampering" cases where it's by the SYMPTOM, such as "air conditioning malfunctions" or "vehicle overheats".
What these have in common is a very UNknown part of each vehcicle's Engine Control Module's computer. It stores events far beyond "DTC's" (Diagnostic Trouble Codes). It stores a complete history of what RPM"s the vehicle was running at "X" miles, date, time, etc. It can even be so sophisticated to "know" when a wire or connector has been unplugged, altered, or contact pins compromised. No, there is no "trick" to get around it. Making matters even MORE serious, auto dealers now have special "tamper-seal" for electrical connectors and devices that are invisible to the eye. The newest generation even has a "imprint" film, that takes fingerprints. State and Federal Authorities have launched task forces to identify, and legally prosecute those found to be tampering with vehicles' and making falsified claims for repairs under warranty, when in fact the tampering would VOID the factory warranty, and leave the vehicle withOUT a factory warranty. One of the most common "tampered" parts of a car is the "MAF" or "MAP" sensor. The automobile manufacturer's know how tampering shorts them out, and are "onto it" with consumers that tamper this part. They can prove it easily - and effectively. Whta some consumers may have gotten away with years ago is NOT the case today.
One of the reasons this article is being offered to consumers is for the million of USED cars being sold that are still under the factory warranty. What if the previous owner tampered with the vehicle? This is exactly why when someone is shopping for a used car from a dealer (example: A BMW from a BMW dealer), that they should request a "warranty repair history" printout. This will show if there was suspected tampering. The invoices will say things like "not a warrantable defect", or "not warranty- outside influence". Some may even say "possible tampering". They typically won't come right out and word it as "found tampering", but there have even been cases of that! If you buy a car private party - ask for copies of their repair invoices! That way you can inspect the mechanics/technicians notes, and see if any mention of "tampering" is made.
With cars, as with any consumer goods "BUYER BEWARE" is the word of the day. If you purchase "used", we always encourage to buy a "CPO" (Certified Pre-Owned") from a dealer who is a franchised dealer for the brand of car you are looking to buy used.
This BLOG article does not suggest that any reader has tampered or altered their vehicle. This BLOG is to heighten consumer AWARENESS.
If you have a vehicle that has seen multiple warranty repair attempts for the same issue, please call The Law Offices of William R. McGee at 1-800-225-3666. If you have mechanical questions regarding a vehicle under warranty that you may believe has been tampered, call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073. Callers contacting Mr. Sottile should have all their repair records ready and in chronological order before calling. Our website can be accessed at: www.CaliforniaLemonLawAttorneys.com
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| | | Lemon Law - If You No Longer Own the Vehicle - Tuesday, September 13 2011 | |
Many consumers call us on vehicles' they have recently sold, traded-in, or lease-returned. They want to know if the California Lemon Law applies to them.
If, while you owned/leased your 2005-2012 vehicle, you had repeated warranty repairs for the same issue, you may be entitled to substantial monetary compensation on the vehicle you no longer own.
If you owned/leased a 2005-2012 vehicle that you feel was a "lemon" by it's warranty repair history, and you have recently sold, traded it in or lease-returned it, we urge you to call our offices at 1-800-225-3666 and find out if you quality to receive thousands of dollars in compensation.
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| | | California Lemon Law - Videotape the Issue - Saturday, September 10 2011 | |
This blog deals with reproducing a problem with your vehicle that is of a "intermittent" nature, and you have been unable to demonstrate it to the Service Advisor at the dealership.
A common frustration of consumers when they call me on lemon law cases is their inability to get the dealer to do a warranty repair on their vehicle, because when it's in the dealers shop they cannot duplicate the issue/complaint. The Repair Order invoice comes back "operating as designed", or "could not duplicate customers concern".
The best way around this is the use of videotaping, or in some circumstances, digital photos. Let's assume that on occasion your "CHECK ENGINE", "SRS AIRBAG" or "BRAKE" warning lamp illuminate. When this happens, pull over to a safe spot off the road/highway, put the vehicle into "PARK", keep the engine running, and take photos of the instrument cluster including odometer, tachometer needle position, AND warning light.
What if your issue is something that needs to be captured in sound & movement? Video is perfect for this. When you take the video (someone else will need to video if you are driving, or if you are alone and the issue happens, pull over to the side of the road as noted in the last paragraph. Your video MUST have a 5-10 seconds view of the vehicles odometer reading, as this is your "date stamp" of how many miles were on the vehicle at the time of taping.
Good examples of video are a vehicle with a mis-alignment pull, a loud noise, lights coming on and off on the dash, malfunctions of electrical devices such as radio's, bluetooth, etc.
Once you have taken the photos and/or video, "burn" it to a CD or DVD, and bring it in to the Service Department on your next visit. After lodging your complaint on the Repair Order, have them write down "customer has provided video of problem with xxxx" (description of symptom/warning light/problem).
If you have a vehicle that is still under the manufacturers factory warranty, and have questions about doing photography or video's on your vehicle's current unresolved issue(s), please call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073. If your vehicle has already seen multiple warranty repair attempts for the same issue, please call our offices at 1-800-225-3666.
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| | | When a "power outtage" affects your CAR - Friday, September 9 2011 | |
Your car's electrical system is very sensitive, controlled by computers, but still runs on the basics....
Your vehicle's electrical system all runs on the power from your auto's battery. This is a 12v. negative ground system. Your vehicle's computers must received an un-interrupted stream of 12 volt power to operate. This means that both positive (+) and negative (-) ground integrity.
One of the most common sources of vehicle operational problems, stalling, lighting dimming, and a host of other problems is lack of battery connectivity. This is typically caused by:
1. Battery cable post corrosion
2. Loose positive battery cable
3. Loose negative battery cable
4. One or more cells in the battery are failing.
When you have your vehicle serviced next time, nicely ask your Service Advisor or mechanic/technician to "check the battery and cables". It may be free, or a small charge, but it is the safe way to ensure trouble-free driving.
If you have had multiple repeat warranty problems with your vehicle, please call us about a potential California lemon law claim at 1-800-225-3666. If you have technical questions about repeat repairs on your vehicle, please cal our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073
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| | | Changes in the California Lemon Law - Wednesday, September 7 2011 | |
The recent changes in the California Lemon Law is great news for consumers.
In the past, one of the biggest "fights" in pursuing a lemon law case was the argument over what constituted a "repair attempt" under warranty. The automobile manufacturers saw it as when repairs were done, but not "ordered parts", "could not duplicate complaint" or other circumstances.
A published appelate court decision changed all that recently. Now, any time a consumer delivers the vehicle to the authorized warranty provider dealer, states their complaint on the Repair Order, and gives the dealer an opportunity to effect repairs, it is of no consequence to the consumer whether the dealer indentifies/duplicates the complaint and/or makes repairs or not. No longer can the automobile manufacturer use the old defense tactic as before.
This is a huge change in our California lemon law that yields more protection for California consumers with repairs being peformed under the manufacturers new vehicle limited warranty, or CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) factory used vehicle warranty.
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| | | Lemon Law - Labor Day Car Sales & - Monday, September 5 2011 | |
Can a vehicle purchased on Labor Day turn out to be a "sour lemon", and not a 'deal' at all? Can it result in a California lemon law claim? Answer - YES.
Car dealerships raise all the banners, flash all the lights, and advertise like no tomorrow for special 'Labor Day Sales and Deals". Here is what to watch out for when getting yourself involved on car buying on this day, and any national holiday weekend.
Rule # 1, overlooked when buying in the excitement of the moment. 3 of the same model sitting side by side - one can drive different. The thought is "all new cars drive the same". This is the farthest from the truth. Vehicles are machines. There are thousands of parts, they are assembled and built by people.
Before signing any Purchase or Lease Agreement - do your due dillegence - drive the car. Not just any car, the one you are going to buy! Vehicle's right out of the factory can have bad paint, improperly shifting transmissions a horrible interior squeak or rattle, doors that don't close right, interior features that don't operate, or dash warning lights that are illuminated, such as "CHECK ENGINE", SRS AIRBAG, and more.
The last thing you want to start with is a car with problems. The salespeople will tell you "no problem! - Just bring it back and we will take care of that in our Service Department". Now, why would you want to go back with a car that starts out to be a problem from 'day-1?".
You throroughly drive the specific car you want to take delivery of. On streets, over bumps, into driveways of parking lots, over "speed bumps", on the freeway - in short -thoroughly check out the vehicle.
IF you find anything wrong with that vehicle, walk over to the next one (it may even be at a different dealer) and drive it. WAIT until you find the one that drives perfectly (drives straight, doesn't pull to one side), the paint on the outside is perfect (no scratches, dings, repainting), the doors are close easily and the same, and everything works on interior features.
The new vehicle that leaves the dealers lot with a problem from delivery day has the highest probability of continued problems, which makes it highly probable as a California lemon law claim down-the-road.
We want to see you get a good vehicle on car buying day. However, if your new or used vehicle purchased under factory warranty has multiple factory repair visits for the same issue, you likely have yourself a "lemon". You can call us at 1-800-225-3666, or call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073 about your car buying (or leasing) questions. Mr. Sottile can best direct you on how to avoid the dealer selling you a bad car in the excitement (and pressure) of the buying experience.
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| | | California Lemon Law - Repair Orders - Saturday, September 3 2011 | |
An easy way to understand how the California lemon law works is to be knowledgeable of the 'Repair Order'. All lemon law claims are based upon the Repair Order that is generated for a factory warranty repair visit. This triggers what is known as a "repair attempt" under our California lemon law.
What are the consumer's responsbilities in getting proper Repair Orders?
1.The warranty Repair Order must clearly state the customers complaint/symptom/driveability issue (whichever applies). Do not let a Service Advisor put the words in - they need to be your words describing it.
2."Intermittent". If the complaint/symptom/driveability issue is of a 'intermittent' nature, you are responsible to have this word as part of your complaint. As an example: "intermittently vehicle will shift gears very harshly".
3. Sign the Repair Order only after you have read it for accuracey to your complaint/symptom/driveability issue.
4. If you have a warning light on while driving that occurs which is the reason for your service visit and Repair Order, pull over to a safe place, put the transmission in "PARK", apply the parking brake, then photograph the warning lamp in the instrument cluster, including the odometer and tachometer in the photo. This will "miles stamp" when the problem occurred. Bring this photo into the dealership and give it to the Service Advisor. Have he/she write on your Repair Order "See customers provided photo of warning light illuminated"
5. Get a signed copy of the Repair Order.
6. When the vehicle comes out of the shop, be sure to get a completed copy of the Repair Order, which is called a "Repair Order Invoice". Do not leave/pick up your vehicle without getting one, as you may not be able to get one later on!. Keep this in a safe place, but not in your vehicle. Store it at home in a file specifically for your vehicle repairs.
If you have any questions regarding properly written warranty Repair Orders, you can call our offices at 1-800-225-3666, or call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile, at 1-858-342-0073. Your conversation with us is free to you.
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| | | California Lemon Law & Today's Economy - Wednesday, August 31 2011 | |
We live in a uncertain economy. We really don't know the stability of the economy, the job market, the stock market, or most everything else.
Fortunately we do know that even though our houses are no longer a "best bet", our vehicles are. Why?
In a California lemon law claim/case, one of the potential outcomes is called a "cash settlement". This is where you keep your car, it's not branded a "lemon", and the manufacturer pays you, the vehicle owner, thousands of dollars for the inconvenience and hassle of having to bring the vehicle into the shop so many times for factory warranty repairs.
Who doesn't need to "find" thousands of dollars in this economy? Nobody I know. How do you know if your vehicles' warranty repair history has the makings for a lemon law case? Call our Lemon Law Auto Expert, Randy Sottile at 1-858-342-0073 to talk about the problems you have had with your vehicle under warranty. If you believe you have all the makings of a lemon law case and want to start right away, please call our law firm toll-free at 1-800-225-3666. We are here to help people. We look forward to helping you get the compensation you deserve and are entitled to under our California lemon law.
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| | | Dealer Modifications via added Accessories - Tuesday, August 30 2011 | |
Here is a big "red flag" when purchasing a new or used vehicle!
Dealers are always looking for ways to make more money on each car they sell or lease. One way to do this is after-market, non-factory accessory additions. Common examples are "car tracking" devices, DVD players, amplifiers, ignition "kill switches", outside sourced sunroof or moonroofs, and much more. Any and all of these can potentially VOID your manufacturer's new vehicle limited warranty by virutue of the fine print in the warranty 'modifications, alterations, abuse, mis-use". You may say "it's the dealers fault, they put it on!" OK, but TRY to make them responsible. Fingers get pointed between aftermarket accessory and dealer. It's often a mess.
To protect yourself as a consumer under warranty law (and potentially California Lemon Law), get a "statement of facts" to sign with your purchase documents (or have them write this on the purchase or lease agreement): "dealer certifies that there are no added after-market, non-factory accessories or devices on this vehicle". If you do that, and they put them on anyways, you have grounds to sue them. Without it, you tread into the water at your own risk.
If you have any questions on the California Lemon Law, and your vehicle is still under factory warranty, or just went out, call us at 1-800-225-3666, and we will be happy to answer your questions. If you have a question about the accessories on your car, ask our Lemon Law Auto Expert Randy Sottile at 1-858-342-0073
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| | | How to inspect paint before your purchase - Saturday, August 27 2011 | |
All too often consumers purchase a new vehicle, only to find a day or so later that there are serious paint flaws, scratches, ripples, "orange-peel" or repainted sections on their vehicle. These vehicles, when returned to the dealer, are often met with "you already purchased the vehicle and did not mention anything, there is no recession of sale" or similar.
So, what's a consumer to do. First, you do not sign any purchase or lease agreement until you have done a thorough inspection of the vehicle. WHERE you do this inspection is critical. The only type of light that readily unmasks paint problems is FLOURESCENT light. If you are planning on taking delivery during the day, have them drive the car into the workshop, and inspect it under the flourescent lights. What may have looked "perfect" may suddenly show up major issues. What if you are purchasing at night? This one is easy - drive the vehicle to a gasoline station with those big bright flourescent lights - you know the one's. Again, look closely at the car from all angles.
Now, what if the paint is OK under lights, but has what appears to be "swirl marks", "stains", or other surface defects? BUYER BEWARE! Modern paints have a very beautiful "clear coat" over the "color coat", but this clearcoat is very thin, and more fragile that the paint below it. I would encourage you to NOT take delivery or sign any purchase or lease contract until their detail department has corrected any paint issues/imperfections to YOUR satisfaction FIRST.
Taking your time in the purchase/lease of a vehicle by proper inspection will yield you a more enjoyable purchase and ownership experience.
If you purchased at vehicle with paint issues that became the source of repeated repair attempts including sections being repainted (under warranty), please call us at 1-800-225-3666 to see if you have a California Lemon law case against the manufacturer.
Questions on warranty paint repairs? Your call is free to our Lemon Law Automotive expert, Randy Sottile. You can reach him at 1-858-342-0073. He is here to help consumers.
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| | | Buying a better used car... - Friday, August 26 2011 | |
Independent dealer or franchised new car dealership car lot?
What are the differences and pitfalls, and how does it affect a California Lemon Law claim?
A "good" car can be purchased anywhere. From a independent used car lot, or a franchised car dealership lot. A "bad" car can also be purchased from either. What is the difference? The difference lies in the consumers ability to hold the dealership (or manufacturer) accountable for whatever warranty they provide. Often with independent used car lots, they sell cars that are already out of the factory warranty. They give their own "30-day" warranty or similar, and when major repairs happen after the 30-day mark, they are "off the hook", without any liability. Or, if you utilize their given warranty, they may not agree to do the repairs. Some of these dealers sell "Service Contracts" or what they may call an "extended warranty". It's NOT. In California, these are NOT considered "warranties" and thus cannot be used for California Lemon Law claims. Now, on the flip side, a franchised car dealer that is selling their franchised brand of vehicle on their used car lot as a "CPO" (Certified Pre-Owned), affords the consumer a WARRANTY, from the automobile manufacturer. In this scenario the consumer has recourse for warranty issues. The consumer can pursue the dealer and/or the manufacturer for breach of that warranty. "CPO" vehicles also must pass a 120+ point inspection. These vehicles come with a written WARRANTY - from the automobiles manuacturer.
The other compelling reason comes in suing a independent vs. franchised car dealer. An "independent" can just close their doors and opens up under a different corporation name to avoid the lawsuit or potential judgement. An franchised dealer is normally around to stay, has substantial assets, and finds it more realistic to settle a claim than to pay attorneys fees. Any dealer can "fight" a claim that they feel has no merit, but with the franchised dealer you can normally settle - and collect a judgement.
A "CPO" (Certified Pre-Owned) from a franchised dealer affords the same California Lemon Law protection as does the new car factory warranty from a legal sense. Too many repairs for the same issue under the CPO warranty can make for a California Lemon Law case/claim.
Do you want to talk about your warranty repairs from the franchised new car dealers used car lot with our Lemon Law Automotive Expert, Randy Sottile? You can contact him at 1-858-342-0073. You are free to speak with him at no charge to you for the conversation.
We invite all consumers who purchased a used car with a factory warranty (CPO) that has had repeated repair attempts under warranty to contact us at 1-800-225-3666.
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| | | After-market 'Free-flow' air filters. - Friday, August 26 2011 | |
After-market "Free-flow" air filters. Can they damage your engine, affect your warranty rights, and a potential California Lemon Law Claim?
Many consumers will try to help their vehicle's engine's "breathe" better, thereby allowing more air in to the combustion chambers, and increasing performance. Many manufacturers of these after-market products claim substantial increases in performance. What are the potential pitfalls to the consumer as it related to warranty repairs, and/or the California Lemon Law?
Automobile manufacturer's do extensive research on air intake and air cleaner "elements" (filters). These filters must capture the micro-fine dust/dirt that, if allowed to get into the engine combustion chamber, can do major damage to the cylinder walls and piston rings, among other internally lubricated parts. A less-restrictive after-market air cleaner allows more unfiltered air to enter the engine to increase performance. Many of these filters use a oil-bathed cloth or other medium. The net effect is more air entering the engine that has NOT been through a multi-stage paper or cloth factory air filter.
An automobile manufacturer may DENY a warranty claim on an engine found to have had cylinder wall damage due to contaminated air entering the engine via a after-market low-restriction air filter. This could come under "abuse, lack of proper maintenance, or mis-use".
This can have serious financial implications to a consumer if an engine must be replaced or rebuilt. It can often cost $5,000 to $15,000.
In terms of California Lemon Law, a warranty repair visits that yields a "warranty claim denied - after-market air filter installed" or equivalent can often stop a California Lemon Law claim/case in it's tracks, as lemon law is for warrantable defects.This would be argued by the manufacturer as NON-warrantable abuse/mis-use.
Do you want to talk about your warranty repairs regarding an engine with an after-market air filter with our Lemon Law Automotive Expert, Randy Sottile? You can contact him at 1-858-342-0073. You are free to speak with him at no charge to you for the conversation.
We invite all consumers who purchased or leased a new or used vehicle under the factory warranty that has had repeated repair attempts to contact us at 1-800-225-3666.
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| | | FIAT returns to the United States market for... - Wednesday, August 24 2011 | |
FIAT returns to the United States market for another try after 24 years. Are Lemon Law claims soon to follow?
FIAT, with it's association with Chrysler, has returned to U.S. shores. The history of FIAT in America was less than stellar, with FIAT finally pulling out of the U.S. market in the mid-80's. Emissions, quality control, premature parts failures and a less than optimal warranty/service network all contributed to the "plug" being pulled.
Well, in FIAT's return, we see two compact models, the 500 and 500C. Though not inexpensive, they boast a bounty of features. The "bounty" we don't want to see are DEFECTS and PROBLEMS. The dream, so far, has not been all that great. Consumer complaints including electrical problems, interior trim, mechanical issues and more have already sprung up.
Have you purchased or leased a new FIAT? Tell us of your experience so far on this blog, and let's see if this car can truly compete in the market and hold up mechanically, or if it's just another "return of FIAT", and doomed to be short lived with a string of lemon law claims/cases.
If you purchased a FIAT, and it has turned out to have problems, we invite you to call us at 1-800-225-3666.
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